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Numbers just make sense. There is very little theory or interpretation involved in math. An answer is either right or wrong. Numbers represent hard facts and with my overly analytical and logical mindset, they just make sense to me.
When I look at my stats I am given a count of how many people have visited, which pages they looked at, what site brought them to mine and several other pieces of information. Sometimes these numbers will teach me something and at other times they just are what they are without making sense.
In my opinion, the best post I have ever written is Biblical Mistranslation and Special Interest Groups. I was proud of that one and it quickly rose to the #1 spot. Why shouldn't it? Doesn't it just make sense that the best would find its way to the top? I used to think so, but my mind was changed last September.
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I was actually a little bothered that this post was sitting in my sidebar as the second most popular post. A piece that I believe was better had to be bumped to make room for it. Regardless of how I felt about it, the numbers were what they were.
My audience has grown recently and a new post today sees 5-6 times the traffic of posts from a year ago that I consider to be quality posts. Having this bigger audience explains why five of my top ten most read pages have been posted in the last two months. However, timing and playing the game still play a big part.
As of right now, the post ranked #5 as the most popular is the one I wrote two days ago: The Awards Fairy Came By. This was a post recognizing some awards I received and I passed them on to some other deserving bloggers. While I enjoy pointing people to other good blogs and showing appreciation for the people that gave me special recognition, most award posts (from other bloggers as well as myself) are far removed from the quality of writing that is normally found on their site. My last post was mediocre at best, but I know why it is ranked so highly.
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There has been times I've been sitting at my computer and get a notification that she has posted a new blog. I try to leave comments on other blogs to increase my traffic and exposure to other bloggers. However, her following is so big, by the time I read her post and leave a comment, I am comment #156. This is within just a few minutes of her blog going up.
Yesterday, she posted a blog about a conversation she had with her husband. I left a comment (like I always do), but this time I was the second comment. I don't know why, but I wasn't lost in the middle of hundreds of comments never to be seen by anyone. I was at the top.
Since her blog lists the most recent post of the person commenting, I started getting traffic. Because of her huge audience, I pulled over 100 hits from that one sentence comment within an hour and the numbers are still climbing. Does that post deserve to be at the #5 spot? Definitely not, but I am starting to see how this works.
If I want crazy traffic, it is about more than just quality posts, I need to be at the right place and the right time. I need to pay attention to trends. How much traffic did I lose by not posting about the Monkees within moments of hearing about the death of Davy Jones? I need to be dropping words into my posts to attract more British traffic: Oxford, Princess Diana, Buckingham Palace. I should be taking advantage of the presidential campaigning right now and name drop Newt Gingrich, Barack Obama, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum. I also need to site stalk The Bloggess and other successful sites like her. (I will be watching to see what happens to my search engine results because I just did this.)
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I think I told you that my blog was found with the search "klingon whore" - there, now the phrase is in your comment section, so that pervert can find you too. You're welcome!
ReplyDeleteIf I know I've got something clever to post on a given day, I don't visit other blogs until I've posted it, because if it will be better than what I currently have up, then I'd rather people read it.
(Oh shoot...I shouldn't comment today; I should have waited for tomorrow!)
I do something similar. I have a few favorites that I will check as soon as I sit down. Then, if it is a writing day, I write before I read. Although, I do it to stay focused. If I start reading, I may never get around to doing my post.
DeleteI will watch for Klingon Whore in my SEO.
Goddam it. Red beat me to it.
DeleteAlthough we clearly think alike....
I should probably write first and read later too - but the first thing I do is sit down and see who's posted something new... and then I can't help it but to run over the old posts and see if anyone responded to one of my comments... and even though I'm following less than thirty blogs - it takes time!
Delete...while watching for weird keyword searches, it occurred to me that so far no search criteria for "axe-murderer", "ax", or "chain-saw" has shown in my stats yet.
DeleteJust more proof that a good axe-murderer knows how to cover his tracks! :p
Years of practice
Deletelol
DeleteWell hopefully this is the first comment here so they will all see this and come on over to me...
ReplyDeleteJust kidding. I'd rather have people read it who like ME, and the crap I spout out.
I constantly gets hits from all over the world, and there are two posts that mostly drive that traffic. One is called who wants to be a porn star, take a look - its in the popular posts - next time you stop buy, and you will see why ALL the people who come to view it are seriously disappointed.
Makes me crack up.
And you see my other search keywords - how 'anal gadget' and 'autocunnilingus' brings me up in search engines I don't know, but they do, often.
And now they will find you too (when the engines crawl your blog they crawl the comments too).
Mwahh haa haaa
If you want to see more indepth results use analytics. I do, and let me tell you the first four letters of that word are no coincidence.
I started using analytics a few months ago. There is a wealth of information there. I don't know why anyone would need to know all that stuff, but it is interesting to go check sometimes.
DeleteMy site was once found by searching, "David Bowie in MC Hammer pants"
I mentioned MC Hammer in one post, but nothing about clothes or David Bowie.
This is a beautiful, thoughtful post - and it's probably going to hit all your readers in their soft spot. I think we can all relate to the tension between wanting to write well and wanting to write something that's well-read. I think the most important thing is the writing - because ultimately if you are posting just to get hits, you'll not sit at the computer with the same enthusiasm, whereas if you sit down because you just want to write well, and you succeed, that will be more lasting and meaningful to you.
ReplyDeleteHowever, you have justly received more visitors lately and I'm so happy to see that! Well-deserved!
I started my blog as a place to vent, but then it became a place to make people laugh, and now it has become a place where I can write. Before I started this I found too many reasons and excuses not to write at all - and for people who love to write, this can be soul-crippling. So I am so grateful to people like you who read, listen, respond, and encourage me. Thank you!
Those well-written posts of yours will stand the test of time!
Thank you so much. You get exactly what I am saying. I LOVE to write. I really do. I enjoy being the funny guy, but it is not always there. I also love seeing those numbers climb and know that people enjoyed something I wrote, especially if I really sweat over it.
DeleteIn the end, I really enjoy the writing. I will try to keep that as my focus and it should keep me centered. Thank you again.
I had a run where out of something like 10 Bloggess posts, I was the first comment on 6 of them. And you know what? Although my traffic spiked, it didn't really impact my day to day traffic after that. Of the set of people who click on comment links on the Bloggess' site, I'd already captured the subset of those who like my site (more or less). (Where the hell is the Venn Diagram button?)
ReplyDeleteAnyway, lately I've been boosting traffic mainly through Twitter. I got Michael Ian Black to retweet something I said, and that hit 1.7 million people.
But I've finally stopped being obsessive with daily page views and Klout rankings. I'm more interested in bounce rates. Of the new visitors, what percentage leave after viewing one page... That one drives me up the wall.
Congrats on the celebrity retweet. That had to make you feel good. I just started using Twitter a few months ago. I have had an account for a couple of years, but never utilized it. I think that is where a portion of my traffic is coming from.
DeleteI haven't dug into analytics too much yet. I have looked at bounce rate and have tried to think of ways to increase my numbers there. All I can think of is producing words so engaging that they want to stay.
Words like "Click here for horrible, disgusting porn."
DeleteThis was quite interesting. Thanks for sharing your experiences. And for leading me to that brilliant biblical mistranslation post!
ReplyDeleteThank you for reading and I am happy that you liked that post. It will be my favorite for a long time.
DeleteGood read! I stopped paying attention to the stats page many a fortnight ago. I like to write . . . when I have something to write about. I know I'm not going to be a consistent blogger so I'll never have the following of a legend like Brett Minor.
ReplyDeleteI use to check and it would make me a tad pissy. I couldn't believe that as much fun as I had writing it, as much fun as I had rereading it, that only 25 others on the whole planet bothered to even glance at it.
It took me almost a year before I had an actual audience. At first, it was just people that I knew reading. It has since grown. I am going to attempt to go an entire week without looking at it. Don't know if I can do it.
DeleteWell said, man.
ReplyDeleteHere's the thing. For a few days, I was getting MASSIVE traffic from stumbleupon. But the way stumbleupon works, hardly any of those daily pageviewers turned into converted readers.
Sadly, you and I have blogs that are the kind that readers really have to find for themselves, wanting to find a place to read thoughtful, yet not necessarily concise, pieces of writing.
I have been steadily increasing in traffic over the past few weeks, but if you spend too much time looking at the numbers, you will begin to realize that its one of those things where you will never be happy. I am getting traffic now that two months ago I would have been STOKED to have, but I now want more. In two more months, hopefully it will be the same situation, but it is always striving for better without really being happy about where I'm at now.
That being said, there are two things that ARE making me extremely happy:
1) More followers.
2) More comments/interaction/feedback from said followers.
3) I am getting in more of a rhythm and writing a ton more. The ideas (which I thought would run out) are coming more frequently and the writing process is becoming faster and more enjoyable.
Damn man, sorry. I didn't mean to write an actual blog post in your comments section. Remind me to post this on my blog someday lol.
But seriously, stop looking at the numbers (save for a quick glance) and keep writing your awesome stuff.
Thank you. I am experiencing much of the same recently. I get more comments on a post now than I was getting in views just two months ago. The interaction with people is one of the most fun parts.
DeleteMy traffic tripled from December to January and has grown quickly ever since. Regardless of the numbers, it is so much more rewarding to get one comment as opposed to 10 hits.
I have also found that the more I write, the more ideas I have. Thanks for reading and your encouragement.
I stalk my stats too... but then I also write for my own personal enjoyment and sanity. If I actually REALLY cared maybe I would have more than 9 follower HA! SOME DAY THAT NUMBER WILL BE 10!!!!!
ReplyDeleteHang in there. My blog wasn't really discovered until about a year after I started it.
Deletewell shoot Brett now I have to shoot for 11 people...this is too much work. :) Technically I only started my blog like in Jan...so...I WILL HANG IN THERE!
DeleteI struggle with the same thing. I am always looking at numbers and trying to figure out why certain posts are more popular than others. I guess it doesn't help that I'm all over the map when it comes to the day/time I post.
ReplyDeleteThough logically I know differently, I can't help thinking there's a secret code buried deep inside my stats and I'm obsessed with trying to crack it.
Sometimes I can figure it out and other times I just don't get it. Luckily, I enjoy this.
DeleteAnother reason to not get to high on your stats is feedburners. I'm no expert on the subject but I read blogs via the Google Reader which means I read your blog, but you don't get the hit on your page. It sucks for you, I know, but very convenient for me as I do a lot of reading blogs away from my laptop (work, standing in line, ect.)
ReplyDeleteThat being said, I check my stats a lot too, and I use the reason above on why my stats suck. Lol
I never thought of that. I use Reader also, but I open the ones I want to read into new tabs.
DeleteInteresting, and very true. I've gotten that experience from the bloggess too - but I agree, it's just a one time spike when it happens (though it is fun to see that many hits...)
ReplyDeleteShe has so many people flowing to her site, I am happy to take some of the spillover.
DeleteDammit. Got here too late. At the bottom. AGAIN. No matter what we say or do, the human ego craves recognition. And cake.
ReplyDeleteGreat post.
I do like the numbers to go up. And pie. Pie.
DeleteHaha, I'm always last! I need to get up at the crack of dawn!
ReplyDeleteBut, you are right Brett. The right place, the right time...
Oh, and I am working on a post about numbers LOL, but not stats so don't think I copycatted ya haha!
I'm always a day late :)
Last week I did a post about getting swats in school. One of my commenters (?) did one on the same topic that same day. There must be some cosmic force determining topics.
DeleteHere's a thought. If you make your blog a little less exciting you'll get less hits; and when the visitor numbers decrease you'll naturally not be very interested in the Stats. Ummm lol... it's true but I doubt you'll take me up on this.
ReplyDeleteMy old blog, which was erotica, was extremely popular and I was addicted to watching the stats - but this new blog of mine just gets a few readers a day. I almost never even think to check where the people are coming from etc.
How's that for a helpful bit of advice? ;-p
That makes sense. The higher the numbers get, the more I watch them.
DeleteI am going to attempt to not look at them at all tomorrow. That might not seem like much, but it will be difficult.
But I am not lowering the excitement level. I just went to my mother's to retrieve old pictures so I can have more applicable visuals.
DeleteIt's going to be fun.
Now I'm all worked up and waiting... can't wait to see you and your group's scarred and bashed up bodies...
DeleteI thought you started this because you wanted to write. Then write and if people read great if they don't to bad for them they are missing out. I love to read the thoughts you have... keep writing no matter what people see or don't as long as I do that is all that matters.
ReplyDeleteYou're right. That is why I started. The numbers always interested me, but really became interesting when they started to climb. The bigger the numbers got, the bigger I wanted them to get.
DeleteThey haven't been a big problem for me. It's just the inconsistency of what gets hits versus what doesn't.
Sorry to chime in again (you know I'm addicted), just wanted to add that I do look at the stats, but I "hope" I'm not too concerned about them. I love the little chats via the comment sections most. And I have no clue about all that other detailed stuff some of these comments are about!
ReplyDelete...and follower numbers don't bother me at all, because I think I only "follow" 3, but. I read a lot more.
I don't 'believe' I am obsessed or anything, but I do find myself trying to plan the timing of my posts. I was much more proud of what I wrote last Sunday, than anything since. But weekend posts don't get the same traffic. It was disappointing to see it not be read as much as the post on Tuesday when it was clearly better.
DeleteWhat I need to wrap my head around is to not think about it and just write.
I may have figured it out. Since my last class ended, I have a lot of extra time. It may not be an issue at the end of the month when my workload starts again.
DeleteIt sounds like something we all do.
ReplyDeleteI had my blog for almost a year before I had any readers. I didn't advertise it to my friends or family, I didn't comment on any pages or publicly follow blogs, I didn't care I just wanted to do it. But then I felt like an outsider reading banter in comment fields. I was missing out on a community.
I joined in, people let me, I started getting hits. Now I look at my stats too often for it to be healthy, always wanting one more hit like the stats junky I am. :p
That has been the best part of this whole thing. Since my numbers are growing and people are reading, I am getting more interaction. Especially with many people being repeat visitors (and me going to their sites), the community is great and I get to meet new people. Even if it is only in the virtual world.
DeleteI love this and really wish I had started years ago.
Interesting, and also something we all either have done or still do.
ReplyDeleteHaving said that, I notice the blog chasers on some of the bigger blogs, and to me, rushing off a quick 'lol' so that you can be comment #1 is sort of silly, you know?
Write for yourself. At the end of the day, you want to feel good about what you're putting out there.
I feel the same way about the short one word responses. I always try to leave something meaningful or engaging. Even worse are the people who left a quick note just to ask you to follow them.
DeleteI will check out the blog of every person who comments. If I enjoy it, I will follow and continue to visit.
You are right. In the end, I have to enjoy what I am writing. I love doing this. I don't want it to become a job.
I hear what you're saying about posting a comment on her blog and getting increased traffic. I was #9 like a week ago and it was an abnormally busy day for my site.
ReplyDeleteI agree, creating content based on popular events will bring in a flow of traffic interested in this current news, but at that point you are catering your content just for traffic. Your blog begins to lose identity and focus while you chase the public's interest around the internet. This may easily be a simple quality > quantity case of followers. Whereas you can spark some traffic with a recent topic, more than likely those hits won't be back as would people who stumble across your site merely for the regular subjects they enjoy. Now I'm starting to ramble...
I'd say commenting on other blogs is key, and creating catchy post titles is key, so that when you get a "commentlove" blog, other readers' interests can be piqued. I've noticed a jump in views of a post that has a wittier title than the others, and have to continue working on that myself. I don't want to oversell a post with a far-fetched title though, so that's my issue. Time and commitment - What can you do?
I always notice when I see a comment from a new person, but it is even better when they are back for the next post. It's fun building that online relationship with new people both on my site and theirs.
DeleteI love The Bloggess, but rarely try to comment or even read the comments because there are just so damned many of them. Because of that, I'm not even sure that she reads them.
ReplyDeleteI'd much rather interact on blogs like yours where I'm assured that the writer actually reads them.
Just remember us little people when you're famous(er).
I love interacting with my readers and there are a few sites on which I regularly leave comments and enjoy when they reply back.
DeleteI really enjoy the Bloggess, but there is no way she could reply to all her comments. She has hundreds within a few minutes of posting.
Is there any type of Blogging Convention where we could all get together once a year?
There is BlogHer, but that is only for woman. I am not aware of an all-inclusive convention, but there should be one. I don't know why it's only focused towards women. Seems sort of bigotted if you ask me. Doesn't mean I'm not going, though.
DeleteHonestly, I don't worry too much about my stats, although I do check them briefly at the end of the day just to see if anyone's linking to me. And I don't comment on blogs with hundreds of comments...I just feel too intimidated. Not to murky up your waters, but I find that Blogger stats are really inaccurate. On my last blog - which had ads from BlogHer - I also installed StatCounter. Both Statcounter and Blogher showed about the same number of pageviews. Blogger stats was consistently 5-6 times higher. I think that I had a lot of spam/bot referrers on Blogger, and they didn't count on the other counters. Honestly, stats will make you dizzy if you worry too much about them!
ReplyDeleteI have wondered sometimes. I have seen two new comments pop up with no move in the stats. How did they come to my page to comment without registering a hit?
DeleteIt makes no sense. As long as I get to keep interacting with readers, I will be happy.
When I first started blogging I worked those numbers like crazy. Now, those numbers can make me crazy if I pay attention to them. I just write because I want to and the comments are my reward. There is no way that 1500 followers are actually reading a blog at the same time.
ReplyDeleteLuckily, I haven't succumbed to trying to manipulate them. I just watch them like a hawk.
DeleteI saw your name on the Bloggess comments and was wondering how one earth you got there so quick! I will comment if I really have something to say, but only if it's under 100 at that point. After that, I feel like it's probably been said at that point and I would just be redundant.
ReplyDeleteI found that the most traffic I got was by going to sites that I enjoyed and commenting, so that people got to know me and actually wanted to see what I had to say on my site. I was not an "lol" or "follow my blog" girl ever. I just would visit other's sites I loved and that got me traffic from them or others that followed them. I am perfectly happy with my followers and my stats. I don't let that stuff concern me any more, but at the beginning I was sort of obsessive. A couple times when I was actually mentioned on some other blogs, I got a big spike in views, but it always settled down soon after, with maybe a few more followers, but nothing drastic. It is all about finding people you enjoy and hoping that others find you and enjoy your stuff as well. I don't wanna be The Bloggess. That is too big and too much pressure. I am happy with my niche for the moment.
End speach. :)
I am sure she has to work really hard to maintain what she has built.
DeleteI don't leave a comment anymore, unless I have something to say. I never asked people to follow, but I would throw up something just to have something there. I try to at least add to the conversation. Repeated intelligent comments garners more attention.
I really don't know how I got so high on her comments. My Reader jumped so I knew she had JUST posted, but figured by the time I read it, I would be way behind. I wasn't for some reason.
I installed statcounter on my blog. My advice? Don't do it. You will find out things about what people do on your blog that you are better off not knowing. I can't take that back. Oh, how I wish I could. After stacounter, I found myself caring about numbers, and I just didn't enjoy blogging as much. There was pressure to cater to people I don't even know.
ReplyDeleteThat would be a real pain. I haven't installed anything, but did register my blog with Google Analytics. More information than I would ever need to know.
DeleteDude, I hear ya.
ReplyDeleteIf you want a regular following like The Bloggess, then quality is paramount. Screw the stats.
If you want a ton of hits... then you need to include random SEO phrases you may not even be aware of.
My most popular post is mediocre at best, but because it includes a pic of a happy face I ripped from Google Images, people googling "Don't worry, Be Happy" land on my blog. I get 200 hits a day just from that.
I feel kinda bad for them. Sometimes.
That's funny. I have gotten many hits from various pictures and I know they didn't stay long because it was not what they were looking for.
DeleteI (like most, I assume) want genuine readers. There are good and pointless reasons to cater to Google. I don't want people to just pass through, but every person that comes to the site is a potential new follower.
I am addicted to blogger as a whole but those stats keep me up at night. My second most read post, since blogger started keeping track at least, is one of my least favorite things I've ever written. I've considered deleting it just to get it off of there.
ReplyDeleteStill, I tend to judge my posts more by what is said to me about them, both in the comments and in real life. And still I am surprised by what my readers think is good compared to what I like.
As long as they keep reading, I suppose....
And yeah, being timely is the best way to get readers. Word of mouth only takes you so far.
When I first started doing this, my only readers where some of my Facebook friends. It didn't matter how good a certain piece was, I had a limited audience. I would write something I thought was gold and it wouldn't get any more readers than other posts. Once I started reaching out, then I was able to gauge what people liked more than others...to a degree.
DeleteI am hit with the dilemma of whether or not to cater to the search engines or other methods. While the spike in numbers is a temporary ego surge they are not indicative of the actual audience. However, playing the game also attracts a few people who decide to stay.
I just need to find the balance.
I started out the opposite. Sort of. My original blog was over at Myspace and was written at the request of a friend. I actually really liked myspace's blog tool more than blogger but the audience there was, well, it just was.
DeleteWhen I moved to blogger, I invited very few real life friends. I wanted access to different, anonymous, readers.
I goofed around for a little while with trying to build an audience. Some of my early posts were meant specifically to get hits. And it worked. But I hated the subject matter. I felt forced to write about crap I didn't really care about.
Then someone happened across a post I had written about my nephews and commented. My first real fan. Sure the optimizing brought readers but they rarely commented and came back even less frequently.
I decided that if something timely happened that I cared about, I'd write about it. Otherwise, I was going to write what I wanted to write when I wanted to write it.
I hope you find your balance. It's taken me nearly five years to get where I am now and while I still write a lot of nonsense, I'm happy when I reread it and that's enough for me right now.
That sounds great. The last thing I want to do is write things I don't care about. I do that in school everyday.
DeleteVery interesting! Awesome blog following!
ReplyDeleteThank you. I hope I can keep your attention. Most posts are less serious than this one.
DeleteI couldn't agree more with everything you have said. It's like those numbers are the reason I am happy or homicidal!
ReplyDelete-JP
Lettuce Be Clear
They hold a lot more power than they should.
DeleteI'm also amazed at the traffic I get from commenting on a Bloggess post. It's not like I get her numbers, but often that is my top source...if you can't tell already, I check my stats all the time too. Oh, and I don't do well in math :)
ReplyDeleteI would be curious to know how many hits she gets in a day. That one comment I left is ranked as the second highest traffic source ever. The numbers are insane.
DeleteI am happy I am not the only one who checks the stats so often. I am fairly new and don't have much of a following (thank God for cousins and life long friends lol!) but I have noticed lately that I can actually feel badly after looking at my stats. How silly is that? So I try hard to just put it all in perspective. I love to write and even if I only get 3 or 4 regular people commenting who cares. Sometimes it's just easier said than done though. :)
ReplyDeleteI totally agree. I write because I like to, but I do enjoy knowing that people are reading what I am writing. I wrote for a little over a year before I actually starting gaining a following. Now I get new followers all the time. It takes time to build the audience.
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